Grover Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform joins the Joe Pags Show to fill us in on Cloward/Piven – bankrupting the US and school choice.

“I’ve never heard of this before Obama took office,” began Pagliarulo. “Why do we want people relying on the government?”

“They want to break the system so they can recreate it. They want to make major cities unlivable,” explained Norquist.

“People who were working were told they don’t have to work. If you do that to somebody for several years, they will never enter the labor market,” he added. “The government makes them unemployable. There’s only one place to go: They vote for more Democrats.”

Watch the conversation above.