Dr. Ben Carson didn’t hold back in his explosive sit-down with Joe Pags, diving deep into the failures of government, the corruption of truth, and the need for a return to faith-based values.
Right out of the gate, Carson addressed the push to dismantle the Department of Education, calling it a major step toward restoring real learning in America. “If you can get a kid interested in reading, and reading at a proficient level by the third grade,” he explained, “it completely changed the trajectory of their lives.” But instead, he warned, we’ve created a system that’s “dumbing down our society”—whether by design or neglect.
The conversation quickly turned to the COVID pandemic and the mainstream narrative. Carson ripped into media manipulation and government overreach, pointing to the “suppressed” use of early treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. “We lost hundreds of thousands of people needlessly because of this deception,” he said, adding that if it was all to promote the vaccine rollout, “it’s one of the greatest crimes ever in the history of mankind.”
When asked whether anyone will be held accountable, Carson expressed cautious hope—but warned that if there’s no reckoning, public trust in future health recommendations could collapse. “The name Fauci carries a negative connotation now… for a good reason,” he noted.
On the future of HUD, Carson praised the appointment of Scott Turner, saying, “I am so thrilled to have Scott Turner in that position.” The two worked together on Opportunity Zones, and Carson shared his full confidence in Turner’s leadership and commitment to real change.
The interview closed with a powerful reflection on faith, freedom, and the soul of the nation. “Our founding document says that our rights come from our Creator,” Carson reminded listeners. As the country drifts from those foundational truths, he asked, “Look what’s happened to our country as we’ve moved away from faith.” He warned that Marxists are actively trying to replace God with government—and that it’s time to push back.
For the full context, powerful insights, and more from this unfiltered conversation, make sure to listen to the full interview with Dr. Ben Carson—only on The Joe Pags Show.