Renowned integrative physician Dr. Jesse Lopez joins Pags and brings the FACTS. No fluff, no fearmongering—just real medical studies breaking down what’s really behind “long COVID” and the even more alarming rise in what he calls “long vax.” Dr. Lopez explains the biological effects, the overlooked risks, and why so many are still in the dark. If you’ve had COVID, the jab, or know someone who has—this is must-hear, potentially life-changing information.

“You’ve heard the term ‘Covid long-haul’ and ‘Covid long-vax.’ I’m a little confused, can you explain this?” asked Joe Pags. “Is there a difference?”

“There’s a big difference between the two. Patients who are suffering from this are being left out in the cold,” explained Lopez. “You haven’t heard much lately from people who promoted the vaccine.”

“We’re now left to take care of people who have both syndromes. They are two distinct, yet similar, entities. An individual who has not received any kind of vaccine could develop a ‘long-haul’ syndrome from the virus itself.”

Watch the full conversation above.