Dr. Ben Carson joined Joe Pags to expose the dysfunction in Washington, calling out government waste, the left’s reliance on fear-mongering, and the growing awakening among Americans. A former HUD Secretary and neurosurgeon, Carson offered a unique perspective on leadership, psychology, and the challenges of fixing a broken system.

Carson noted a major shift happening across the country, particularly in minority communities, as people realize they’ve been misled. “If we had continued down the pathway we were going, we were done,” he warned. He called out the left’s outrage over being exposed, comparing it to a thief desperate to hide their crime. “They’re very upset that they’re being exposed,” he said, emphasizing that Americans are no longer blindly trusting mainstream narratives.

His time at HUD revealed staggering government waste, including an eight-year lapse in mandatory audits. His team worked tirelessly to restore accountability, a fight he sees continuing today as billions in mismanaged funds are uncovered across federal agencies. The corruption runs deep, with Carson highlighting the DOJ and FBI’s political weaponization. He shared the shocking story of an innocent man sentenced to prison simply to protect those truly responsible, calling it a symptom of a broken system.

On the economy, Carson warned that reckless spending has pushed the U.S. to the brink, with $36 trillion in debt. He proposed reforms to eliminate waste, particularly in healthcare, where fraud costs billions. Strengthening personal health savings accounts, he argued, would empower Americans and curb government overreach.

Despite Washington’s dysfunction, Carson remains optimistic. He praised leaders like Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, and Pam Bondi for taking on the establishment but acknowledged the battle won’t be easy. When asked if he’d take on an official role in the Trump administration, he simply teased, “We’ll talk about that next time.”

Carson’s message was clear: Americans are waking up, and the days of unchecked corruption may be coming to an end. With strong leadership and a relentless push for accountability, real change is possible.