Citizen journalist and Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe spoke with Joe ‘Pags’ Pagliarulo this week on the state of the media in America; saying today’s newspapers are more involved in public relations than actual facts.

“Big Tech doesn’t like you. The media doesn’t like you. Academia doesn’t like you,” said Pags.

“Why do we live in a world where all three branches of government are not as powerful as the New York Times, Big Tech? It’s all baffling. You don’t have to speculate… We’re living in a world where you have to have citizen journalism. You need whistle blowers!” said O’Keefe.

“The newspapers that exist today, they only release information they want you to see. That’s not journalism. That’s public relations,” he added.

Watch O’Keefe and Pags above.