China expert and author Gordon Chang joins Pags to break down Beijing’s next moves—and why America needs to stay sharp. From tariffs and trade pressure to China’s long-term strategy, Chang explains whether China will fold or fight, what their endgame really is, and why the U.S. holds the upper hand—if we play it right. This is the no-nonsense, expert analysis you need to understand the global chessboard.
“States are now suing the federal government over Trump’s tariffs on other countries. Some people think China has more leverage on the United States. I think we have more leverage on them. Who’s right?” asked Joe Pags.
“We certainly have more leverage. Our economy is much bigger than China’s,” explained Chang.
“The Chinese economy is weak,” he added. “We have all the high-cards.”
Watch the full conversation above.