Dr Carol Swain says Claudine Gay plagiarized her work to get her PhD.

She talks about why she’s not going after Harvard and how she’s, instead, educating people about what happened. Get her book, “The Adversity of Diversity”

“DEI programs are being pushed out as they should be. It’s a racist thing to have DEI,” began Joe Pags.

“Diversity has provided adverse results. It’s been very harmful. It hasn’t helped anyone,” explained Dr. Swain. “DEI programs violate the US Constitution and our Civil Rights laws. It also violates the First Amendment.”

“We can have diversity without discrimination. We had it right in America when we passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964,” she added. “We got it right, but we never gave it a fair chance because of President Johnson.”

Watch the full conversation above.