Kay Smythe joins Pags to discuss the acquittal of Daniel Penny, the former Marine found not guilty in the subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely.

They explore how this case reflects changing attitudes toward mental illness and the responsibilities of law enforcement and civilians in such situations.

Smythe offers insights into the broader implications for public safety and mental health policies. Don’t miss this timely and thought-provoking conversation!

“I put myself in the position of the person on the subway car if a guy comes in and threatens to kill everyone,” explained Smythe.

“It’s a sad reality when you don’t take care of mental illness… I’m with the guy who stands up and says, ‘We’re not going to deal with that today’. I’m always for the soldier. I’m for the real man,” she added.

Watch the full exchange above.