FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr spoke with Joe ‘Pags’ Pagliarulo Friday to discuss the dangers posed by foreign-based mobile apps like Tik Tok, saying most Americans are voluntarily handing their private information to the Chinese Communists.

“You’ve been having this back and forth with the Chinese Communists for a while. You’ve pulled no punches with this Trojan Horse called Tik Tok,” said Pags.

“Most people look at Tik Tok and they think it’s no big deal. The reality is it’s just sheep’s clothing. Underneath, there’s a tremendous amount of data being collected from your phone. Keystrokes, biometrics, location data, and more,” explained Carr.

“Tik Tok has internal communications that says everything goes back to China. Your sensitive data is going straight to Beijing,” he added.

Watch the conversation above.