Major Travis Yates of the Tulsa, Oklahoma Police Department spoke with Joe ‘Pags’ Pagliarulo this week to discuss the historic crime wave sweeping Democrat-controlled cities across America.

“The vilification of law enforcement officers is wrong. Crime rises in places like New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, they always blame the cops,” said Pags.

“They’re now banning first pursuits in Chicago,” explained Yates. “Instead of talking about criminals, they handcuff the officers. It’s ridiculous.”

“We’re making police even more week in that city!” added Pagliarulo.

“The way to build trust in your community is to catch criminals and to make people feel safe. They’ve been dismantling law enforcement,” concluded Major Yates.

Watch the full conversation above.